RM400 per dog isnt much really. Westies are selling for a lot more from other people. The thing is, if people said pedigree for free adoption, there will be a lot of people out there who will take the dog because its pedigree and worth a lot of money. Not because they really want a dog. Its a bargain.The thinking is, hey if I dont like it, I can sell it. Whereas when you say mongrel for free, people who do want it generally like dogs as dogs, not as status symbols. Even then you have to screen because ALL puppies are adorable and some people adopt because its cute. Its sad, but thats the truth.

ya u are right too..but because it is spayed..anyway..thx for teaching me something

Thanks guys for understanding. My next t&c should be the adopter must be above 23yrs old?? Got this idea from a rescue group in the states. I find it very logic to screen it this way at times other than getting their parents to come and consent it.

My friend who helps me out on my rescues thought that RM800 is for each dog. She feels it's reasonable cos their medical and food bills are really chalking up. When she knew it was for one she couldn't believe it. It's just way to cheap. They have more problems than you can imagine.

And just fyi, I was counting how much food I feed the dogs in my place monthly (won't reveal numbers), 60kg of kibbles and about 120kg of chicken. And cost of all this you calculate yourself. I don't feed cheap dog food, I give medium high range food to my dogs. Don't know how to calculate the medical bills.

On a softer note, I am lucky I have some regular sponsors which helps me out a lot in the medical side and sometimes food. Also I have to thank my good friends around me who helps me spread word to rehome the dogs. If I have to post all the dogs I have for adoption up, I think i'll have to spend half a day just to post and write up everything.. One day I will post pictures of every single dog that I have rehomed on my own website which is under construction now.

11 year old boy is not even capable of taking care of himself whatmore 2 of these lovely pup. looking at the way he spoke, we knew what kinda personality he has.

To me, anyone who is not willing to part with their money for the sake of their pets well-being should not have pets at all...These people are just not worth it arguing over.

Just to comment on one point (I agree with the rest), My sister and I had our first dogs when we were 8 and 10 respectively. Of course we needed full support from parents in regards to food and vet but everything else was mainly us. But I have to stress how much support my parents gave us in regards to keeping pets with annual vaccinations, and never abandoning your pet when you move. We kept them when we moved houses and even when we moved from Sabah back to Peninsular

sometimes i just dont understand that why ppl willing to dump rm1k+++ to buy new pup and not willing to adopt well trained well behavior dog like mini and troy. im glad that we recently adopt good buddy like puffy. he is fun fun fun and lovely..

The ex owner mentioned that he got them both for 5k plus..

may i know why the prev owner gave them up?

The previous owner has given them up due to his busy schedule.

It had been more than 3months I guess since the 1st time acsyen posted them online. Well.. What I can say is that RM800 is reasonable but why is the spaying/nuetering necessary? I had personally email acsyen few months back and she mentioned this.

Cmon.. you have no right to spayed a dog. This is cruelty towards animals! What if 1 day someone would come over and spayed you and you will never have offspring? How do you feel? Worst still, the person never ask you whether you agree or not. This same concept applies. WHY WOULD YOU SPAYED/NEUTERED mini & troy? Did you ask them, they agreed? I am speechless..

Contact me if you changed your mind about the spaying parts, I will be able to take them up.

Regards,

From: http://www.spayusa.org/main_director...enefits_sn.asp

BENEFITS OF SPAY/NEUTER FOR CATS AND DOGS
Benefits of Spaying (females):
No heat cycles, therefore males will not be attracted
Less desire to roam
Risk of mammary gland tumors, ovarian and/or uterine cancer is reduced or eliminated, especially if done before the first heat cycle
Reduces number of unwanted cats/kittens/dogs/puppies
Helps dogs and cats live longer, healthier lives

Benefits of Neutering (males):
Reduces or eliminates risk of spraying and marking
Less desire to roam, therefore less likely to be injured in fights or auto accidents
Risk of testicular cancer is eliminated, and decreases incidence of prostate disease
Reduces number of unwanted cats/kittens/dogs/puppies
Decreases aggressive behavior, including dog bites
Helps dogs and cats live longer, healthier lives

Top 3 Reasons to Spay and Neuter
It helps to reduce companion animal overpopulation. Most countries have a surplus of companion animals and are forced to euthanize or disregard their great suffering. The surplus is in the millions in the United States. Cats are 45 times as prolific, and dogs 15 times as prolific, as humans.They do not need our help to expand their numbers; they need our help to reduce their numbers until there are good homes for them all.

Sterilization of your cat or dog will increase his/her chance of a longer and healthier life. Altering your canine friend will increase his life an average of 1 to 3 years, felines, 3 to 5 years. Altered animals have a very low to no risk of mammary gland tumors/cancer, prostate cancer, perianal tumors, pyometria, and uterine, ovarian and testicular cancers.
Sterilizing your cat/dog makes him/her a better pet, reducing his/her urge to roam and decreasing the risk of contracting diseases or getting hurt as they roam. Surveys indicate that as many as 85% of dogs hit by cars are unaltered. Intact male cats living outside have been shown to live on average less than two years. Feline Immunodeficiency Syndrome is spread by bites and intact cats fight a great deal more than altered cats.

Additional Benefits:

Your community will also benefit. Unwanted animals are becoming a very real concern in many places. Stray animals can easily become a public nuisance, soiling parks and streets, ruining shrubbery, frightening children and elderly people, creating noise and other disturbances, causing automobile accidents, and sometimes even killing livestock or other pets.
- The American Veterinary Medical Association

The capture, impoundment and eventual destruction of unwanted animals costs taxpayers and private humanitarian agencies over a billion dollars each year. As a potential source of rabies and other less serious diseases, they can be a public health hazard.
- The American Veterinary Medical Association

Taken from http://www.oregonvma.org/petowners/spayneuter.asp

Benefits of Spaying or Neutering Your Pet

Sadly, each year more than 15 million dogs and cats are killed in the US because of pet overpopulation.

Altering pets through spay/neuter surgery helps prevent the unwanted birth of animals that would be difficult to place into good homes.

The spaying and neutering of pets can also reduce the incidence of sex-hormone related diseases.

1. Will my dog or cat be a better pet after altering?
Yes. In addition to the benefits of not having heat periods and unwanted offspring, the animal’s tendency to roam is decreased. Most pets become less aggressive toward people and other animals.

2. What are some of the other known advantages of having my pet altered?
The neutered male cat has a decreased urine odor, less of a tendency to fight and roam, and it is far less inclined to mark its territory by spraying urine.

The neutered male dog is also less likely to roam, mark territory, and display aggression toward other dogs. Neutered dogs have fewer tumors around the anus and decreased urine odor.

The spayed female cat and dog do not have reproductive tract disease problems, have less urinary tract infections, and significantly fewer cases of mammary cancer.

3. What is actually done in a spay or neuter procedure?
In both cases, the animal is put under general anesthesia so that it cannot feel anything.

A spay surgery (also called an ovariohysterectomy) is performed on females. While performed routinely, an ovariohysterectomy is a major surgery in which the reproductive tract – including the ovaries, fallopian tubes, and uterus – is removed. Bloodwork may be performed to make sure the pet is healthy enough for anesthesia and surgery.

Neutering refers to the castration of a male animal. It is a surgical procedure in which both testicles are removed. Neutering requires considerably less time and equipment than a spay surgery.

4. How old should my pet be before surgery?
Consult with your veterinarian about the best age for your pet to have this surgery.

In most cases, it is considered safe to alter dogs and cats as early as eight weeks of age.

There may be health risks/concerns specific to certain breeds and sizes of dogs, specifically larger breeds; your veterinarian may advise waiting to perform this surgery until the dog is 6 months to one year or older.

As long as they are healthy enough for surgery, there is generally no upper age limit for pets to be spayed or neutered and, in fact, older pets can benefit from the surgery.

5. Should the female have a heat period or a litter before being spayed?
If your pet is going to be a companion animal rather than a breeding animal, then there are no benefits to allowing her to have a litter or to go through a heat period.

It is actually healthier for your dog or cat never to experience a heat as it lessen’s the animal’s chance of getting mammary cancer and decreases the animal’s stress and risks due to pregnancy and delivery.

Research indicates that dogs spayed prior to their first heat have less than a half of one percent chance of experiencing mammary cancer as compared to an eight percent chance after the second heat.

Cats spayed after their first heat have a seven times greater chance of suffering from mammary cancer than cats spayed prior to their first heat.

6. Is it safe for a dog or cat to be spayed when she is in heat or pregnant?
Females in good health can have the surgery done when they are in heat or pregnant. Talk with your veterinarians as to what is best for your pet.

7. Isn’t it unnatural to deprive my pet of a sex life?
No. Dogs and cats have sex strictly to satisfy hormone-induced instincts, not for pleasure.

8. Why shouldn’t I just keep my female dog or cat confined while she is in heat?
You can do this, of course. But, remember, your unspayed dog will come into heat twice a year for its entire life. A cat comes into heat once a month for its entire life. Also, do not forget all of the other health benefits of spay surgery.

9. Will spaying or neutering my pet cause it to become fat and lazy?
No. Weight gain is due to being fed more calories than the animal uses. Watch the quantity of food you give your pet. Also, older pets need fewer calories than younger ones because they tend to be less active and are no longer growing. Regular play and exercise, along with diet, are the keys to keeping your pet in shape.

Agree.well...i duno who i shud agree wif...Dr. Xandro has his own point n so does u adrift....
Hm...but basically...it depends whr te dogs were landed into who's....if tat person is a dog lover...
I bet tat person wil kno wat2do better. =]

ya, I agree with Dreay ^-^

Dr Xandrio,if I have a baby I will take responsiblity of my own children.You cannot use the same reason to animal.Who is going to take the responsibility of unwanted puppies?? Do you maths how many times a year dog can mate and how many litter they produce every time they give birth.

=] wat u say is correct,macgyverjune...u hv ur point thr....as i said...tis is all depends on the owner...if thy were abt2lt their doggy breed...
Thy must take full responsibility...but4me...tis type of owner tat make use of their brain is jz getting lesser...&lesser...Or not...thr wouldnt b SPCA or PAWS here..tis reli saddens me....

How come so long also not been adopted?

I wonder y he can he can only take if they're not spayed/neutered... for breeding purpose? well, people have their preference on how he/she would like the dogs to be adopted. respect her, but my opinion is, if that person request the dogs to be spayed/neutered then i think the giver should bear the cost. since so worried.. just pay and spay/neuter first then only put up for adoption :) just an idea, no offence ya. have a nice day

These dogs are already spayed and neutered. It wasn't when I first post it up. It will be with me until I feel the person interested is right for the dogs.Have got 1 very potential person which I have been interviewing for a month already. Dr Xandro has never been qualified to adopt any of my dogs. Someone who breeds and sells animals will never be suitable.